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Dino engine vs Fiat 130 Coupe engine

Postby JPohja » Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:28 pm

Hello, is there something same in these two engines? Design? I have been told that 130's V6 is based on Dino's V6.
What's the truth?
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Re: Dino engine vs Fiat 130 Coupe engine

Postby Tobi » Mon Aug 31, 2015 3:46 pm

As far as I know, it's only the number of cylinders which they have in common ;)
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Re: Dino engine vs Fiat 130 Coupe engine

Postby JPohja » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:04 pm

Thats exatly my thoughts but I have prove it some how. Cannot use Wikipedia now because it says they are related :(
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Re: Dino engine vs Fiat 130 Coupe engine

Postby Peter Tabmow » Mon Aug 31, 2015 5:29 pm

I do not think there is any commonality in the two engines technically, but there is a link: I believe the great Aurelio Lampredi adapted the racing Dino engine for the Dino range of road cars and also designed the 3.2 V6 for Fiat.
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Re: Dino engine vs Fiat 130 Coupe engine

Postby JPohja » Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:08 pm

There is a link, Lampredi, yes but different engines! I think 3.2 was the latest version and 2.8 first?
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Re: Dino engine vs Fiat 130 Coupe engine

Postby Peter Tabmow » Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:24 pm

JPohja wrote:There is a link, Lampredi, yes but different engines! I think 3.2 was the latest version and 2.8 first?


Correct, but I believe the 130 Coupe only ever had the 3.2...
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Re: Dino engine vs Fiat 130 Coupe engine

Postby Emanuel H » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:02 am

I once owned a beautiful 130 Coupé, the first thing I had to do was to replace the cam belt. That is already quite a difference to how the cams are driven in the Dino...
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Re: Dino engine vs Fiat 130 Coupe engine

Postby Emanuel H » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:42 am

..and to my recollection the 130 V6 has a 60 degree angle, while the Dino has 65 degrees
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Re: Dino engine vs Fiat 130 Coupe engine

Postby JPohja » Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:43 am

So only really same thing is number of cylinders as before stated ;)
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Re: Dino engine vs Fiat 130 Coupe engine

Postby rossnzwpi » Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:43 am

If I recall correctly Mike Morris comments on the similarities in his book. FIAT, when undertaking the joint Dino project would have liked to incorporate some of their modern engine ideas such as shim-over-bucket cam followers & belt cam drive but Enzo insisted on race-proven conservative design. FIAT designed their own V6 (the 130) at the same time, unconstrained by the need to race it and choosing parameters more suited to a luxury GT. The cylinder banks could be at the more logical 60 degrees and the block made from prosaic cast iron. A single carburettor would suffice as well as a single cam per bank. The rev limit need not be as high with the balance shifted to even spread of torque rather than high end power. Most 130s were automatics and did not have LSD diffs although some were fitted with the ZF 5 speed. I also remember reading about the 130 V6 being used in a racing X1/9.
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